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PostSubject: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 21, 2010 10:50 am

If u have any suggestions about any improvements to our new server just post it here. If it isn't technical like u just want me to add new map - just post what u want. If it is more technical like egz. it will be good if players can vote for tdm, and u know how to do it, post also technical info about how to achieve what u want to be done.

I'm still linux noob and I don't know much about Nexuiz technical aspects (structure, configuration, modifications or scripting) so technical support will be apreciated.

I have also some ideas of improvements which by now can't be made cause of lack of knowledge. So I also will post it here.


1. How to remove powerups? I tried:

server.cfg wrote:

g_powerup_shield 0
g_powerup_strenght 0
g_powerup_superhealth 0


But it takes no effect.

2. How to configure respawn protection? Any setting about respawning I founded (and set) till now was:

server.cfg wrote:

g_respawn_delay 0.5
g_spawnshieldtime 0.5


But this only set that u can't be killed during 0.5s from the respawn. I think the best solution is that for some time after respawn if u will be fragged no point will be added to fragger (info about spawnfrag will be shown to him) and from the other hand during some time after respawn if u frag anybody it would also be a spawnfrag and no point should be added. I don't like an idea of spawn shield, do u?. But I dunno how to configure respawn protection the way I think is better.

3. How to enable some more complex votes - like 1on1 2on2 3on3 voting?
4. How to change (or add if empty) map picture on the maps choice screen?
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 21, 2010 3:53 pm

Holy s#it!
We have servers! YAAAY!

(I've been away for a week so if they'r been there before today i apolagize)

Is it you Analgod who provided it? =)
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 21, 2010 5:40 pm

Yes we have. And we had them week ago and... even couple months ago Very Happy

Now we have:
DM 2.5.1 - I don't know who provide it.
1on1 2.5.2 - provided by BFG
DM 2.5.2 - released two days ago and provided by me

You haven't notice that we have servers coz they r empty most of the time coz of ping. BFG's server is his home PC - not best connection and location (UK). DM 2.5.1 I noticed just 2 days ago when I searched for my server. I don't know nothing about it.

My server will be the best of we have till now coz it is classical server rented from hosting company, located in their data center. But still I'm not fully satisfied coz for most of NK's it will be probably little worse than PK because it is located in France.

BTW I have noticed one strange behaviour - for me, my server is frequently higher on servers list than all PKs servers (I have servers list allways orderer by ping). It seems to have better connection parameters than PKs but when I'm inside I see that my and others ping is not very good quite often. Can it be possible one of this pings is very often far away from real value? Is shown ping dependent of any server configuration settings?
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon May 24, 2010 2:20 pm

I configured server to multi gametype mode. Now it is DM server with votable 1on1, 2on2, 3on3 modes. To vote for another mode:

console wrote:

vcall 1on1
vcall 2on2
vcall 3on3
vcall dm - return to DM mode. This mode is default but don't return automatically so if u change mode please let the last player on server make this call before exit.


I was able to improve significantly server ping only by server configuration. SO now many players can have better ping even than on PK. Still I don't know how to create PK-like spawnfrag protection. Its probably independent of server configuration and needs to interfere much deeper in Nexuiz structure (maybe Iron can help me).

So I think our server slowly become profesional. Some of us tested it yesterday - because of lags on PK server part of NK vs PROPHETS match took part on our server. And I think everybody was satisfied. But I'm pretty sure for long time it will become empty most of the time because it take lot of time since people found out that there is at least one good (ours) DM server except PK. If I do something I would like it has any purpose. So till it won't be very popular we can arrange NKs training meetings - once a week at specific day and time all NKs who wants and can be on server will meet to train chosen gametype and share game tips with each others.

My proposal of details:

1. Ones chosen and constant days of the week creating a cycle, egz:

1st week - Thursday
2nd week - Friday
3rd week - Sathurday
4th week - Thursday
5th week - Friday
etc.

It spare us a mess of choosing it from week to week - "I can of Friday; I can on Sunday; Please not the weekend! etc." Everybody who can - join. If there will be too less ppl just simply there won't be a meeting this week.

2. Constant time
3. One gametype per meeting.

So finaly my exact proposal for 3 incoming weeks will be:
27.05.2010 21:00 gametype: DM
04.06.2010 21:00 gametype: TDM (2on2, 3on3)
12.06.2010 21:00 gametype: 1on1

One thing can be a problem. I always have to have at least enought time to restart server and make it not public. I don't think it will be allways possible so I have one solution: I will make a copy of the server - it will be allways hidden. I think there won't be any problems and my server hardware can handle even full both servers.
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyTue May 25, 2010 1:35 pm

nice and very important topic martin +1 reputation for you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 3:24 pm

today i had some nice games with Lucy on your new server.

Ping was good, lag happened just once and i'm pretty sure it's due to my internet connection, not the server thing.

We were playing 1on1 (Lucy showed some power and logged as a MASTER Razz )
It was great, i took hard pawnage on farewell (it was about 30:10 for Lucy... She's excellent on some maps, really)

Generally, everything works fine, you could think about this spawn protection, what Anal mentioned some posts before.
You could also think about typefragging maybe. I mean so typefrag wouldn't give you a point. But maybe you did? I wasn't testing it:P

Anyway, really good job and really nice server:)
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 3:29 pm

yeah its really nice server Smile

Now we can play dm and 1on1 in the same server Smile Our server Smile
Its really greate !! cheers lol!

I try logged and its works Smile

I have quastion , if i logged as master and choose 1on1 game , i shudnl to change later game to dm or i dont have to ?

Frogg its was good game Very Happy i dont wanna kick you r ass Very Happy it waS FUNNY GAMe Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 4:32 pm

kuniu the frogg wrote:
Generally, everything works fine, you could think about this spawn protection, what Anal mentioned some posts before.
You could also think about typefragging maybe. I mean so typefrag wouldn't give you a point.

Yes, pk-like spawn protection needs to be applied to the server. This idea about typefragging is also good (but probably very hard to achive by me). Now I'm trying to apply first part. But simple things has ended. I need to download Nexuiz source code, apply mods and compile it. Temporary impossible coz my linux server is... f*cked up. To made possible to compile Nexuiz I need about 100 new packets. And I can't download any - apt-get can't connect ubuntu repositories. Why I don't know - it worked fine, now it doesn't work, it doesn't see proper adress. So I'm grounded I dunno for how long. Evil or Very Mad

Lucy [NK] wrote:
if i logged as master and choose 1on1 game , i shudnl to change later game to dm or i dont have to
Yes u have to. When u change gametype u load new configuration for the server. The is no possibility to load the old one (dm) automatically.
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 4:41 pm

yep and maybe when connected to the second player to restart the game (zero score).
But This is only a little ,,problem" Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 10:47 pm

It is a very nice server, but could you shorten the respawn time? It is frustrating having to wait three or four seconds to get back in the game.

Otherwise congratulations, I and look forward to seeing you all there.

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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyThu May 27, 2010 11:45 pm

organic wrote:
It is a very nice server, but could you shorten the respawn time? It is frustrating having to wait three or four seconds to get back in the game.
Shocked Respawn time is set to 1sec Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 28, 2010 12:50 am

Really? Probably I'm exaggerating. According to the onscreen clock it takes 2 seconds, though it can seem longer. Normally, I get fragged, I mouseclick(maybe twice), and I'm back. Here I mouseclick a couple of times, and still have to wait. Its a minor issue, but it can seem a big deal near the end of DM.

Could there be anything else slowing it?
Can it be reduced to less than 1 sec?
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 28, 2010 9:23 am

Hmm for me is respawn time normal as the other servers
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 28, 2010 10:14 am

I dunno what can slowing respawn. If there were many ppl feeling the same I would suppose it could be wrong server configuration. But it seems u r alone. I can change respawn time to 0.8 sec but not less. Sometimes u don't want to respawn instantly. If it would be shorter you don't make it to release mouse button and it would work similiar to autorespawn.
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyFri May 28, 2010 1:12 pm

Maybe it is just me then, or the network was slow at the time. I'll test it some more over the next few days. Thanks for checking it out though.


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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 8:12 am

I've added some votes to our server. So now:

There is available 4on4 mode.

I added an control for number of BOTs and their skills. So now u don't need to change mode to 1on1 when u need to get rid of annoying (for some ppl) third BOT. Or if u want train with large number of BOTs it is also available. Calls u can use:

Minimal amount of players (filled by bots if there isn't enough ppl):
minplayers_2
minplayers_3
minplayers_4
minplayers_5
minplayers_6
minplayers_8
minplayers_10

BOTs skills:
botskill_4
botskill_6
botskill_7
botskill_8
botskill_9
botskill_10

Yellow models skin is also available by call:
sv_fbskin_yellow

Fast restore of defaults, if u mess a little on the server:
defaults - restore dm mode with 3 BOTs (skill 7) and yellow skin
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 11:25 am

Very Happy Good idea and of course great work (as always Martin)
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 9:42 pm

M@R4 [NK] wrote:
Very Happy Good idea and of course great work (as always Martin)

yeah Smile

and nice pic Very Happy LOOL MArcinku jakiś Ty przystojny Very Happy Wink Wink Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 9:49 am

Martin - ADMIN SERVER V.PRO Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 5:35 pm

Lucy [NK] wrote:
LOOL MArcinku jakiś Ty przystojny Very Happy Wink Wink Very Happy

To co, randka? Very Happy

Obiecuje, że będę grzeczny. Żadnego dzikiego wyuzdanego seksu.... no chyba, że sama będziesz miała ochotę Wink

PS. Sorry guys I'm little shy and I was too ashamed to give Lucy any sexual proposals on public so I wrote above sentences in polish Twisted Evil Wink
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 6:00 pm

wtf??? lol! lol! lol! hehe pig
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 6:09 pm

Hm,

Żadnego dzikiego wyuzdanego seksu....

I can get it. Sounds very tender but sexy Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyMon Jun 28, 2010 7:42 pm

AnalHorror [NK] wrote:
Lucy [NK] wrote:
LOOL MArcinku jakiś Ty przystojny Very Happy Wink Wink Very Happy

To co, randka? Very Happy

Obiecuje, że będę grzeczny. Żadnego dzikiego wyuzdanego seksu.... no chyba, że sama będziesz miała ochotę Wink

PS. Sorry guys I'm little shy and I was too ashamed to give Lucy any sexual proposals on public so I wrote above sentences in polish Twisted Evil Wink


LOOL sorry guys for Polish language Very Happy

ehmm Będziesz grzeczny Oo ?? Very Happy pffffff.. to ja dziękuję za taką randkę Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wink Wink Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyTue Jun 29, 2010 6:19 am

Lucy, Anal, don`t you think you`re going JUST A BIT offtopic?

lol! lol!

just joking...

btw. i love your avatar too Anal but i prefer Lucys new, sorry, my scary friend... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyTue Jun 29, 2010 11:13 am

lool Frogg Very Happy I like your avatar too Very Happy


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That s why i cant frag the Frogg Very Happy


Btw ...
Frogg you have 3 days ago B-day . Happy -day to youuuu Happy B-day too you Very Happy I wish ya all the best Very Happy MAny frags and have fun Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:57 am

Lucy [NK] wrote:
ehmm Będziesz grzeczny Oo ?? Very Happy pffffff.. to ja dziękuję za taką randkę Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wink Wink Very Happy

Cholera przejęzyczenie. Miało być:

Obiecuje, że będę grzeszny. Żądny dzikiego wyuzdanego seksu....

a więc:

Zabiorę Cię do krainy perwersji. Przepłyniemy przez ocean rozkoszy i dotrzemy na najwyższy z szczytów. Będziesz krzyczeć moje imię do utraty tchu. Choć zabraknie Ci sił będziesz chciała jeszcze i jeszcze...

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Wink

PS. if u guys want to preserve your moralitry don't translate this Razz Wink

PS2. Damn it should be a topic about the server Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 9:29 am

Ehm nice topic lol!
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 11:17 am

AnalHorror [NK] wrote:


Przepłyniemy przez ocean rozkoszy i dotrzemy na najwyższy z szczytów. Będziesz krzyczeć moje imię do utraty tchu. Choć zabraknie Ci sił będziesz chciała jeszcze i jeszcze...

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Wink

Laughing

Arrow Z tym przepłynięciem będzie problem , ponieważ ja nie umiem pływać Very Happy Jeżeli chodzi o szczyt , zależy jak wysoko będziemy szczytować , wiesz mam lęk wysokości Very Happy

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil lol! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Arrow Thx god guys that you dont undestaind this Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: NK server issues   NK server issues EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 11:47 am

I dont understand a word but I have a feeling that we have a serious "NK server issue here" Wink . Don't you think you two should perhaps go to the NK forum private room to resolve this issue? Very Happy lol!
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[Natural Killer] - sexual counseling
Send money to account number xxxxxxx Very Happy
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